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5 years 4 months ago #1918 by dkcollier
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Hi guys,

Just put (my first) extract brew together, being the Coopers Extra Strong Ale '13.

Originally planning to keg, but I am leaning towards bottles/secondary ferment for this one now.

Having done a couple of partial mashes, I have been cold crashing/force carbing, and things are coming out nicely - my question is, should be be cold crashing this bad boy before bottling? Advice I seem to be getting is that I shouldn't be, as I will lose too much yeast for the secondary ferment - but this doesn't make sense to me as I assume if I would filter I'd probably lose more?

Apologies if this sounds a silly question...

Dan Collier

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5 years 4 months ago #1919 by Gash
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Cold crashing before bottling is no problem at all, it will be fine and you'll get less junk in the bottom of the bottles, I say go for it!

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5 years 3 months ago - 5 years 3 months ago #1932 by dkcollier
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Ok, so now I think I have a problem of "inconvenient timing". The extra strong is fermenting away, but as of about 10 minutes ago - is only down to 1017 (from OG of 1063). My issue is that as of lumch time on Tuesday, I am leaving for 6 days for Christmas...

My question is - will I be right to leave it until I get back? Or do I need to look at contingencies? :ohmy:

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5 years 3 months ago #1933 by Gash
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It will be fine left till you get back, no issues!

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5 years 3 months ago #1936 by dkcollier
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Ok, back late last night, keen as to keep this one going - and gravity is 1016. Expected to finish between 1008-1012. Now I must confess I did add an extra 500g of dextrose to bring SG up to what I expected to achieve expected %ABV - is this what has made it stop so high? Or am I looking at a "stuck" ferment. I opted to use a different yeast (10g of English Ale yeast - I think it was Maurivin 514 Ale Yeast) as opposed to the 2 packets of Coopers yeast). Ferment temp has been kept as close to 18° as my temp controller can manage.

Looks good, tastes good, hoping to get some feedback before I pull the trigger on the cold crash.

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5 years 3 months ago #1939 by Gash
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Id say it was done, you can test it by putting some in a jar , enough to take a reading, give the jar a shake and put it somewhere warm, 20-25c. check it in the morning, see if the gravity has changed. If not you're all good.

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5 years 3 months ago #1940 by dkcollier
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Ok, Having tried to coax the beast back to life unsuccessfully, cold crashed and on track for bottling tomorrow at some stage.

What's got me a little stumped is the amount of dextrose to Bulk Prime with. I've watched your video Gash, and noted 180g, which is what my home brew shop guy suggested.

The Extra Strong recipe suggests a rate of 8g (or slightly lower) per 740/750ml bottle - let's say for argument I get 25 long necks, that would be 205, but now I'm reading that, if I went a gram lower that'd be 180 :oops:

Anyway....the aussie hombrewer page seemed to concur with 180 (7g/750ml), but their calculator has me perplexed...even selecting a much higher carbonation than the style suggests, still only 116g....
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I will go with 180g I think, just wondering others thoughts on calculators, and how much bottling temp plays in carbonation? (say 1-5 degrees straight off cold crash as opposed to 18-20 degrees).

Apologies if it seems like I am asking a lot of questions, but I am super keen to get it right the first time. B)

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5 years 3 months ago #1941 by Gash
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I always had issues with the carb calculators, always seemed way too low, but others seem to use them, they say successfully. I always did the calc myself, divided how many litres I had by 750 and then the usual 7g per bottle and worked it out that way, I didn't adjust for temps even though it does make a difference apparently, but if you were going to use carb drops then you'd be adding the same amount no matter what the temperature. It's hard to say what will work for you because it seems to be different for everyone!

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5 years 2 months ago #1952 by find_another_slave
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Damn "captcha code" issues stopping me from posting earlier...

Anways, a few weeks on, found bottling to be an interesting experience, but mostly have decided to keep this process for "special beers".

Ended up with half a long neck, shown in first attachment - ran out of beer to fill it with. Apparently I wasn't paying attention during the course of filling, as I had 2 others that were less than optimally filled! (I put that down to my happy 3 year old helper...). Wasn't even thinking of what would happen with that much headspace...

Needless to say, those 3 were bottle bombs, glad I wasn't using glass. massively overcarbed, and not much of anything else.

Tonights the night for the first "good" one. Let's see.... :blink:
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5 years 2 months ago #1954 by find_another_slave
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Something very bad has happened...seemed to be alright going into the bottle - but coming out... :sick:
Very low carbonation (the bottle bombs were massively over carbed), odd taste to the malt profile, not playing nicely with the hops at all....

Will see how/whether some further ageing helps....

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Finnroo's Avatar Finnroo - Wed 7 Apr - 14:07

Nice one Skid, yep the weekend went well from what i can remember, Cheers brewers and rock on :D

SkidBaxter's Avatar SkidBaxter - Tue 6 Apr - 12:55

Bottled up a Chocolate Milk Porter earlier today. Drinking some from the previous batch right now. No complaints! Hope everyone has a great week. Cheers!

Finnroo's Avatar Finnroo - Thu 1 Apr - 09:03

Just about to brew a Pale with 2 cans of blonde extract and my fresh cascade hops, cheers all have a great Easter :D

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Happy st Patrick's day, i trust your home brew stouts are blowing Guinness out of the park. Slainte lol

BeerRay1986 - Fri 22 Jan - 21:39

good brewing weekend coming up!!! putting on a mild and bitter! have a rippa weekend

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