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3 years 3 weeks ago #2825 by Cherry1
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Slightly more complicated version than the only other thread in Pilsner's.
A few brews in to this all grain brewing now and have not had to pour anything down the drain yet. Seeing as the fermentation fridge is up and running, thought I would try a Pilsner.
Had a look around on the web for something close to a Pilsner Urquell and have put together the attached. Any thoughts?
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3 years 3 weeks ago #2827 by Gash
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G'day! I'll take a look! I've also more than likely got some clone recipes in books I'll check out for you!

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3 years 3 weeks ago #2828 by Gash
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I dont think an Urquell clone would need munich or vienna but adding them would make it a touch better in my opinion, just a little more malt flavour. It seems bitter but its fitting the style isnt it, I havent had an Urquell for a long time I dont remember how bitter it tastes. Otherwise I reckon take a shot! Usually it would have a very simple base grain bill but would be a triple decoction brew. Here's one I found in an old book called Brew Classic European Beers.

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3 years 3 weeks ago #2829 by Gash
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3 years 3 weeks ago #2830 by Cherry1
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Cheers Gash,
The decoction has no chance, rather go to Dan Murphy's than have a 12 hour brew day :-). Any experience with melanoiden malt? Have watched a Beersmith podcast where Chris Graham and Brad Smith discussed this sort of replicated the decoction. Other sources say this is not the case.
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3 years 3 weeks ago #2831 by Gash
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Yep its an old trick, I think its worth a try, Vienna and Munich have pretty high melanoidin in them as well, so you might not need too much, maybe 300g or so?? Cheers!

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3 years 3 weeks ago #2832 by Cherry1
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May just give it a go without the melanoiden. With regards the bitterness, it is towards the higher side according to the style guides. Interesting when I added the melanoiden to see what it did on beersmith, it darkened the colour a bit which I understand but also reduced the bitterness?? Reducing the 60min hops down to 40g puts it right in the middle. Too much to learn :-).
The ABV is high for the style, I would like to get it down to around 5%. The FG is ok, but the OG is high, whats the best way to tackle this without throwing everything else out?
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3 years 3 weeks ago #2833 by Gash
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The higher the sugars in the wort the less hop utilisation happens, so you get slightly less bitterness from your hops.

You could probably with this recipe just lower the base malt. Or you can do it the fancy way and scale the whole recipe, its quite easy in beersmith. I'll post a couple of pics

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3 years 3 weeks ago #2834 by Gash
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You can double click here


and then adjust here to what you want.
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3 years 3 weeks ago #2835 by Gash
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that will adjust your malts, you may have to tweak hops again.

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BeerRay1986 - Sat 21 Nov - 12:44

Hi all does anyone had a set amount of priming sugar they use to bottling? i use online calculators and its always under carbed!!! cheers guys

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Great brew day today. The over night mash is really working well. Cheers everyone

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this could be dangerous my druken ramblings might not make sense ...didnt even this fuction was here

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Sometimes yes lol

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